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The Federal Aviation Administration will not investigate an Erie pilot who awoke many Boulder residents Thursday morning while flying back and forth over the city, according to federal and local officials.

FAA spokesman Mike Fergus said Friday that pilot Roy Halladay - who was flying his T-33 military training jet while a propeller-driven chase plane took pictures of him over the Flatirons - does not face sanctions over the 6:50 a.m. flight, because no one has filed a formal complaint with the FAA.

Boulder police spokeswoman Sarah Huntley said Thursday that more than a dozen callers who were upset with the noise from the early-morning flight were referred to the FAA.

Apparently, none of those people followed through, Fergus said.

Kenneth Maenpa, manager of the Rocky Mountain Metropolitan Airport in Broomfield, said Halladay did not violate any noise ordinances during his flight, and that he has since apologized to airport managers for the incident.

"There's no perception that there was any dangerous maneuverâ during Halladay's flight, Maenpa said.

Halladay also has assured flight controllers, Maenpa said, that he did not violate the 1,000-foot altitude restriction that pilots must obey while cruising over populated areas.

Federal officials said a review of radar altitude records is time consuming, and would not be done unless a member of the public or airport officials request an inquiry.

Halladay could not be reached Friday by phone, or at his home address in Erie.


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10 Things that make more noise than a plane flying over your house.

1. neighbor's dog barking

2. neighbor's harley starting

3. neighbor's lawn mower/leaf blower

4. garbage truck

5. diesel pickup driving by

6. neighbor's power tools (drill, circular saw...)

7. boy-racer slammed toyota with modified exhaust

8. construction sites (especially the backing beeper)

9. some air-conditioners

10. 140dB train whistles from over 1 mile away.

Get over yourselves folks. it was just a jet flying over a couple of times. This town is so full of whiners anymore as to be ridiculous.

boulder_native

7/25/2008 2:44:17 PM

Anything else not happening today?

andy@dickson.org

7/25/2008 2:53:17 PM

Oh, great. Apparently 100+ posts on this event wasn't enough. Now we're reporting no complaint was filed. What are the odds that a complaint will be filed now?

The media isn't supposed to meddle in events, they're just supposed to report on them.

Or, is this the start of a new service by the DC?

Using boulder_native's list be sure to file a story on how no one filed a barking-dog complaint today, no one filed a complaint against a Harley today, no one filed a noisy lawnmower complaint, etc. etc. This will be fascinating reading.

BTW, it hasn't snowed in Boulder for over 90 days. How 'bout an article on this non-event?

backrange

7/25/2008 2:57:36 PM

Man, I wish I would have been woken up to see this jet. That would hae been cool.

When I used to go to college in Tucson, A10 Warthogs would fly over multiple times a day and night from Davis Montham AFB. I liked watching the acrobatics.

The complainers need to relax and worry about their own lives for once.

Jadam12

7/25/2008 3:04:58 PM

jadam12, I didn't know you could see the jets from the Pima Community College buildings.

backrange

7/25/2008 3:17:01 PM

The University of Arizona actually.

Yes I bet you could see the jets from Pima County Community college also because the entire valley is visable from the Tucson Mountains.

Jadam12

7/25/2008 3:29:30 PM

I figured UofA, was just poking fun.

Folks in Tucson would laugh out loud at the complainers in Boulder about a jet flying overhead. DM keeps the skies busy. Nothing quite like driving down Golf Links and having a Warthog come screaming in over your head.

backrange

7/25/2008 3:49:55 PM

Absolutely! Then there were always those two police helicopters in the Tucson sky with flood lights that made the night look like day time.

Jadam12

7/25/2008 4:13:59 PM

didnt anyone get tased today??

vYRaL303

7/25/2008 4:24:35 PM

We're holding a 1960s-style "Rights Rallyâ next Saturday to protest this unprovoked flyover of our fair city.

The rally is scheduled to take place from 1 to 5 p.m. at the Boulder Bandshell, at the corner of Broadway and Canyon Boulevard.

The gathering will feature protest-sign building, clowns, political speeches, musical parody, bum fights, taser demonstrations, and other entertainment, - all aimed at raising the public's knowledge of adverse air intrusion.

Cookies and beer will be provided free of charge by the RMPJC.

tatnick

7/25/2008 5:00:51 PM

roflmao!! (bows in honor of tatnick)

andy@dickson.org

7/25/2008 5:06:34 PM

I'll be there. What chant should I practice?

yragnam@yahoo.com

7/25/2008 5:09:23 PM

Tatnik, I'll only attend if you reschedule the rally for 1 to 5 a.m.

My neighbor has an alarm that shouts "It's time, for your medication" repeatedly and in an automated voice every morning at 6:30. I don't think he's home much, because when I've yelled "Take your f*&#ing medication already!" there has been no response or cessation of said alarm.

monkeys

7/25/2008 5:20:32 PM

This town is so full of whiners who call other people whiners anymore as to be ridiculous.

jim_anchower

7/25/2008 5:34:42 PM

"10 Things that make more noise than a plane flying over your house."

The yahoo mind in action. For them, it's like a competition.

Actually, doofus doesn't know how loud the plane was because he lives in Laff yet.

hatmonger

7/25/2008 5:43:27 PM

Thanks for the reminder!

I've got to get that complaint in!

Peons strike back.

billy_goat_gruff

7/25/2008 5:45:25 PM

Sorry Monkeys but no can do. The Boulder Transient Alliance objected to a morning rally. Apparently their members work the Farmer's Market soliciting donations for the local chapter. Besides, the Rainbow people bath and wash their clothes on Saturday mornings so they wouldn't be able to attend as well.

tatnick

7/25/2008 5:53:35 PM

"This town is so full of whiners who call other people whiners anymore as to be ridiculous."

Hmmm, something circular about this.

bnorthrop

7/25/2008 6:52:25 PM

This is a joke, right?

bringit

7/25/2008 7:08:55 PM

I was out of town early Thursday morning, sorry I missed the show. This sounds a lot less offensive than a bunch of naked bicycle riders.

davidhustvedt@hotmail.com

7/25/2008 7:42:49 PM

FAA: No investigation into pilot's morning flight over Boulder..

Of course not. Pilots do not investigate pilots. The FAA is nothing but pilots.

Looking at the tracks? Would not take that along.

They know the time. They know the location.

If you report something to the FAA, you are guilty and the pilot is innocent.

Just how it is.

surfy

7/25/2008 8:25:23 PM

I remember a couple of years back when, in celebration of ROTC graduation at CU, they flew a Stealth Bomber over town from the base in Wyoming, I believe. It was an awesome sight, low and slow. I had no idea it was for graduation until I read about it, but of course the article was highlighting the angry mothers who wouldn't let their children see a "device of war" and were angry at our Air Force for such a rude act.

Sheesh, get over yourselves!

I was also in Thornton in 2002 or 2003 when those jets broke the sound barrier right up I-25. I've never felt a sonic boom before, it felt like a bomb going off, amazing!!!!

oilburner

7/25/2008 9:18:55 PM

Surfy is right: "Pilots do not investigate pilots. The FAA is nothing but pilots."

The FAA is now totally infested with pilots, aircraft and industry support hacks which do nothing but promote the aircraft industry.

If this moron had crashed and killed off a couple of families, I seriously doubt anything would have been done to the pilot (if he survived of course).

Can't see that number on that low-flying, buzzing plane? Why? Gee, they had the rules changed years ago because citizens were reporting, uh, abusive, hot-dogging pilots. Nipped THAT in the bud, huh?

I'd like the DC to ask for the photo/graphic of that mornings activity by Snoopy - as well as the elevation he was at.

How about it, DC?

motiff

7/25/2008 10:24:53 PM

"The FAA is now totally infested with pilots, aircraft and industry support hacks which do nothing but promote the aircraft industry."

How has our nation gotten to the point that people who are pilots and aeronautic industry engineers are the ones that are making important decisions regarding the aeronautic industry?

What a travesty!

Jadam12

7/26/2008 10:37:31 AM

Do you rememeber the days the skies were literely filled with hot-dogging pilots? You couldn't look up without seeing barrel rolls, stalls, tailspins, guys walking on the wings. I remember my first flight on a commercial airline when I was young and the pilot barrel rolled that DC-10 from Philly to Atlanta.

I'm sure glad all of that was put to an end.

Jadam12

7/26/2008 10:49:28 AM

"What a travesty!"

Exactly. The present incident shows these folks are poor guardians of public policy at best.

Sort of like putting the trucking industry in charge of highway safety.

hatmonger

7/26/2008 10:51:10 AM

"Exactly. The present incident shows these folks are poor guardians of public policy at best."

Yes, the injuries last Thursday morning created enormous backlogs at the hospital and the loss of revenue and productivity from the lack of sleep nearly created Boulder's biggest recession.

Let's hang the pilot at the bandshell. We should be allowed to stone him first, then we will hang him when he is nearly dead, but still conscious so he can see why he perpetrated such a huge crime on the people of Boulder as we put the noose around his neck.

After that, we'll chug tequilla (Montezuma style) and storm and burn the FAA offices at all of the regional airports.

Jadam12

7/26/2008 11:19:07 AM

I love it that liberals are OK with the fact that we don't always agree with eachother, unlike conservative automatrons who are told what to think by Rush, O'Reily and Rove.

Jadam12

7/26/2008 11:22:33 AM

"Yes, the injuries last Thursday morning created enormous backlogs at the hospital and the loss of revenue and productivity from the lack of sleep nearly created Boulder's biggest recession."

If those your criteria for what's permissible, you must be a Republican.

I'm tired of the "stop whining" crowd. Nobody appointed you noobs to decide what's acceptable for everyone else.

hatmonger

7/26/2008 11:29:18 AM

I love the word "noob" Thanks for brining it back into my lexicon.

Liberals like hat and I are not always goose step marching to the same political views.

It makes me feel better for our country to think we can avoid facist propaganda and mind control. Now, how do we deal with the other half that follows everything that is part of neocon propaganda? We can't be too complacent.

Jadam12

7/26/2008 11:46:30 AM

"If this moron had crashed and killed off a couple of families, I seriously

doubt anything would have been done to the pilot (if he survived of course)."

Yea. Think of the children!!!

There, not that's out of the way.

olokun@forethought.net

7/26/2008 2:08:58 PM

You want noise? Try the latest fighter lighting both burners and going ballistic right over the town....

( my previous post mysteriously disappeared, just like that fighter that went ballistic...The fighter left the noise behind ( BOOM ) but I appeared to have left NOTHING, not even a trace )

The_Punnisher

7/26/2008 2:33:18 PM

Latest flash: my comments on stories have suddenly reappeared. Gremlins are everywhere...

Oh well, you haven't really heard the sound of freedom until you hear an airshow featuring WWII bombers and fighters flying over your house...

People should remember that without these " implements of destruction ", the USofA WOULDN'T EVEN EXIST for you to bellyache about..

A small bit of noise is the price you pay to have the ability to even make your comments on this page. Be glad it wasn't someone going ballistic over your town, because that is the maneuver used to pinpoint drop a nuke....

The_Punnisher

7/26/2008 2:50:59 PM

Let's get a few things straight.

1. The T-33 is more than an antique, it's a relic. Keeping it in the air is a small miracle. Flying it over inhabited areas isn't just dangerous, it's insane.

2. Only someone with scads of free time and money can afford the endless high-tech service, storage and fuel.

3. Plane porn officianados will go to any lengths to get their fix of fancy photos of death machines.

4. Yeah, there are liberals in Boulder who WILL speak up when you do retarded stunts.

5. The lunatic fringe of GOP trolls is alive and well in Colorado (and funded heavily by war-related industries).

6. The current reign of terra is about to end, so count on more squaling and screeching from the loons on the right.

macguiguru@spamcop.net

7/26/2008 2:56:10 PM

hat.

You convinced me.

I am voting for the Dali Obama.

surfy

7/26/2008 3:48:16 PM

I saw the plane flying over Boulder on Thursday and it was a thing of beauty. Also, the noise was definitely not more than even a large commercial jet.

ImInBoulder

7/26/2008 5:01:58 PM

B1tch all you want about the FAA. You obviously have never dealt with them. They are anal rule following a-holes. It is their way or no way. Your only recourse against them is federal court. The judge will always defer to what the FAA says is safe.

skyofrog@hotmail.com

7/26/2008 5:59:10 PM

Macguiguru, I bet you wouldn't last a minute if you were in a survival situation; knowing how to jockey a keyboard is a bit different than jockeying an " implement of descruction " whether it is a knife, gun or a plane...you don't have the proper respect for survival..

Because REALITY has been nice to you ( and many other " civilized people who think " ooh, ICKY " about using survival tools ) and you haven't met up with the real thing. ( oh, the DOW is supposed to protect ME or my COPS are supposed to protect ME... on up the chain )

So use your brains for thinking instead of being a code monkey and think of what you are saying.

Because when you get down to it, both MAN and NATURE just might be working against your survival...

And because your life just may depend on it some day.

The_Punnisher

7/26/2008 5:59:42 PM

I heard it. I wasn't terribly loud, but it was a little disruptive. Mosly, it was self-indulgent. Hope the guy feels a little better now that he has pics of himself being a big man.

What WAS noisy was the power company's contracted tree trimmers this morning in north Boulder. Why exactly are they allowed to start running their chain saws before 8am on a Saturday? Outrageous.

KR

7/26/2008 11:00:46 PM

I heard it and jumped out of bed to see it, it was awesome, I love these old planes and to "macguiguru" they are no more dangerous than any other airplane flying over the city. All airplanes have to follow the same maintenance schedules and the fact that this plane has just been completely restored means that it is most likely in better condition than the day that it was originally built.

To all the "Boulder Moms" and Trustfunders that were so inconvenienced by this event by waking you from your beauty sleep maybe you should have made this a positive event my meeting up with your other "Boulder Mom" friends for an early margarita at the Flatirons Health Club pool.

Les_Stroud

7/27/2008 10:07:03 AM